Joe Rogan and Hamilton Morris Appealed to Trump and Capitalism in 2018
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In this Patreon bonus clip, we examine a 2018 clip where Joe Rogan and Hamilton Morris discussed making psychedelics compatible with capitalism, mainstream institutions, and the Trump administration. Joe Rogan now has direct influence on psychedelic policy discussions and Hamilton Morris left psychedelic journalism and documentary work in 2021 to work with the biotech company COMPASS Pathways.
Transcript
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[00:00] In the following clip, Normie and I are going to check out a segment from Joe Rogan's 2018 interview with Hamilton Morris that's particularly precient giving the recent executive order to accelerate the review of psychedelic drugs. This is a piece of bonus content from our Patreon. And if you want more content like this, you can go check us out at patreon.com/psymposia. This clip is interesting given some of the recent news around Trump, psychedelics, etc. Joe Rogan. Play that real quick. I suppose I am a bit incredulous when it comes to Trump doing anything good. But I think if you told him that people love him more, if he did things good, he would do things good.
[00:49] That's probably true. If someone that he trusted said it, yeah, I think that's his I think we got to get somebody in deep. We got to get a mole in there. Got to get somebody who's good at back rubs. Geta on the podcast and get her. I don't think that'll help. I doubt it. I mean, I just I don't know what is the thing that'll help. is also the separation between the drug users and the policy makers. Yes. And one thing that I am certain will help and it's sort of tragic that this is the case, but it's capitalism. It's the corporatization of these drugs because it's just the premonition in this video seven years ago. Joe Rogan ends up standing behind Donald Trump while he signs the psychedelic executive order. And Hamilton goes on to drop journalism to work for a capitalist for-profit pharmaceutical company.
[01:39] That was prior on the nose. That was prior to his compass stent. Yeah. What year do you know what year that that appearance was? That appearance was seven to 2019. Okay. What did he What was his quote? 2018. The Hamilton appearance was 2018. What did he say? Unfortunately, this is the way it works. Unfortunately, here I'll pull it back up. I suppose I am a bit incredulous when it comes to and the policy makers. One thing that I am certain will help and it's sort of tragic that this is the case, but it's the corporatization of these drugs because why is that tragic? He like just after this he went out of his way to [expletive] on anyone especially Shayla Love who kind of took over the his you know the psychedelic kind of gig he had at Vice.
[02:35] Shayla he [expletive] on her. went out of the way to smash her for covering the various implications of patents and how IP was affecting the space and how the conversations of IP and sort of closed source mindset was infecting the space and preventing collaborations between researchers and having you know strings attached to if you're going to accept if you're going to accept the supply you had provide data yada there's a lot of issues there Jaylor was covering a lot of those issues but it's just funny within the span of a very short period of time he goes from saying that this is somewhat tragic the corporatization to championing the corporatization 2021 he moves from pharmarmacopia to working for compass pathways that three years after this Rogan talk yeah suddenly it's
[03:37] This is the way that it must be done. We have to pursue IP because if we don't pursue IP, we don't get any investors. If we don't have any investors, we can't mainstream psychedelics. If we don't mainstream psychedelics, we can't bring forth the mental health revolution that they're all convinced will happen. Yeah. So, I don't know. I don't know. Seems like it's a pretty inconsistent view that he has there.
