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# Fash Tactics 101: Fox takes on the DNC
- URL: https://ghost.psymposia.com/fash-tactics-101-fox-takes-on-the-dnc/
- Published: 2020-08-30T00:11:23.000Z
- Updated: 2026-09-29T01:02:11.000Z
- Description: Psymposia's Plus 3 takes a close look at Fox's rhetorical strategies in responding to the Democratic National Convention.
- Author: Mike Elliott
- Tags: Videos, #youtube, #youtube-transcript

Psymposia's Plus 3 takes a close look at Fox's rhetorical strategies in responding to the Democratic National Convention.

## Transcript

*This transcript was generated automatically from YouTube's captions, then cleaned up by removing filler words, repeated words and background sounds. It may still contain errors.*

[\[00:00\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=0s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Hello my name is niche davino and in a second I'm going to be joined by brian pace and brian normand of Psymposia we usually talk about politics and science and related topics on our podcast plus three but we're venturing into slightly new territory here with a new format so this is going to be a close reading analysis of some of the fox news takes on the democratic national convention after three tries more than three decades of attempting it joe biden last night finally got his party's nomination in the end biden won anyway the last kid picked for kickball somehow wound up captain of the team and yet still even now very few people take joe biden seriously why is that well if you've seen biden talk you know why he is fading so before we get into the fading bit and like the old geezer thing I just think it's a kind of a low blow like the kickball you know like it sort of goes with trump's whole

[\[01:01\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=61s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Not liking losers you know mentality of like oh nobody wanted him and he's the last desperate pick like it doesn't really to me have much to do with his qualifications in the moment but it seems like you know subtly he's trying to plug that there I you know the thing that it reminds me of is just the whole you know george h.w bush is a wim is a wimp that's what they were throwing at him when he was running of course he actually you know won that race but you know the man was the former head of the cia and you know joe biden for better or for worse ran the united states as vice president for eight years it's not like he's the last kid picked for anything yeah yeah it doesn't even make sense like he's actually done stuff before but you know it just feels like a bullying move this was the previous strategy the first strategy was to cast him as that he has dementia and that you know he's sleepy joe and though they move to target they see what

[\[02:02\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=122s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Works you know yeah well we're about to get into the dementia aspect in a second so let's actually take a look at that footage and I'll stop it again that's not a partisan point it's not intended to be cruel it's true 77 year olds generally are not meant to lead large countries 77 is not the prime of life it is old age joe biden has grown weak that's why we don't take him seriously but as it turns out there's another way to look so I mean I think you know it's worth pointing out that trump and biden have like an age difference of like what three years and it wasn't that long ago that you know the president of the united states was bragging about drinking a glass of water with one hand and you know giving sort of an epic play-by-play of his ability to walk down a not that steep ramp just had to mention I do

[\[03:04\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=184s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Think that the president's age is with that being said I do think that the age is like super valid though at the same time it's not ideal to have like a really like old like someone who's you know kind of should be retiring and kind of you know enjoying rather than somebody who's like yeah but that doesn't really relate to the trump buy-in distinction because how old is trump 74 right so the point that he's making it's not like most people change like super dramatically between 74 I mean you can but it's not the point that he's making against biden and right in here seems just as valid we said against trump sure and all you know common sense tells you that one of them is much healthier than the other too right so right because isn't buying like out like bicycling and there's been all kinds of footage of him like outdoorsy recently

[\[04:05\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=245s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) And then didn't one of you say actually that like it might signal that they're kind of casting the seeds for the future republican a few weeks ago that carlson you know he had to I believe he had to start denying that he had political aspirations or whatever I think a lot of this is signaling probably to others you know because I think right below the surface right now I know right below the surface right now different factions the nikki haley's the you know the liz cheney you know everybody's positioning kevin mccarthy is going to try to defend his turf you know because they're coming after him if he loses so I think he's signaling kind of you know keeping or yeah for like a younger person down the road to take up that mantle yeah yeah you've also got the lincoln project and a lot of people trying to say that you know when the time was

[\[05:08\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=308s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) You know before any indictments or before trump lost that they had voiced their criticisms so I would say that this probably falls into that camp yeah by this decline it's a perspective that hasn't occurred to most republicans but clearly it's at the center of the democrats election strategy yes joe biden is slowing down for 50 years he couldn't stop talking now he has trouble starting sentences he forgets words he misnamed states occasionally he mistakes his sister for his wife every time he gets confused biden grins in that charming way old people do when they know they're losing it so yes joe biden has gotten a little daffy but for that very reason he's not going to hurt you in a time of chaos and shouting it might be comforting to be led by a man who talks about record players and wears slippers with the socks attached that's the actual message the subtext of the biden campaign no one in the democratic party will say it out loud no one ever will but biden's handlers understand that his punchiness could be

[\[06:10\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=370s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) His biggest asset because biden is so obviously ineffective he's harmless so just there's a few things there I mean the word handlers you know implies that he is it's really fascinating to see just the way especially in a time in the world where having you know humanities training myself where humanities are so like pooh-poohed yet this is coming down to this battle of storytelling you know of like who gets to craft the narrative over the events that is the most convincing to the most people and here like the version of the handlers of biden is putting him out to be this like puppet or trojan horse that is just kind of like played by nefarious actors behind the scenes rather than having his own kind of agency you know so just the word choice there for instance yeah but I mean I would also say that you know probably every american president has had some version of you know a staff around them that are fixers and damage control and I mean again look at the current

[\[07:12\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=432s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) President and how frequently statements that he's made have had to have been you know had to have been dialed back or denied and so you know all of these executives have minions running around them so it's just it's sort of like it's a non-statement of course the leader of the american empire has staff that do things sure and I also think that it's in biden's best interest to probably be quiet because the people who are voting for him a very high percentage of those people are not necessarily voting for him they're voting against trump and you know so it's good for him to shut up nancy pelosi just came out yesterday or the day before saying that basically saying that he shouldn't debate because that's like the big vulnerability right now is the upcoming debates you know that's the

[\[08:14\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=494s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) You know that's the show and so how is he gonna you know how is strength going to be projected against strength here and so you know nancy pelosi just came out and she said no he shouldn't debate he trump doesn't deserve a debate with him which obviously I think we know what she's saying biden pushed back against that yesterday but the problem with that is you end up with that you know we saw this the idw as well the intellectual dark web with this kind of like convenient pulling the bad faith card out and saying like oh I don't have to engage I don't need to you know they're just they're using bad strategies and not trying to engage with good faith in an argument and so it's not worth the energy and like I believe that there are cases where that's the case where it's like you don't want to feed the trolls right but at the same time it's dangerous to go down that road because you end up in a situation where you can use it to block out conversations that you don't want to be like engaging with yeah and I would also

[\[09:15\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=555s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Say that you know this is a time where I think that we might see the democrats say well we've watched the republicans dispense with any kind of institutional norms whether it be you know mitch mcconnell blocking merrick garland in an election year or practically everything that trump has done you know including you know not revealing his tax returns you know we may see the democrats say well you know maybe we don't have the rules he serves us but yeah exactly as what you're saying you know in an electoral fight not being able to risk your ideas and show that you can go up against even the most sort of belligerent opponent I mean these are people who are supposed to be interacting with you know international you know allies and enemies and I

[\[10:15\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=615s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Guess one big responsibility of the president of the united states I would say would be to hopefully prevent nuclear war so it doesn't mean you get to set things out yeah the other thing I wanted to just before we move on and point out with this last clip was the way that this is common for folks like tucker and laura ingram to say that you know most republicans like establishment republicans don't know this or aren't acknowledging this but and then saying something to like bring the fox viewership in as if they're like in this rebel kind of like you know populist secret you know society which is like you know again tucker has his own handlers he has his own reason for doing that beyond just the kind of like he's not and I think his vox did a really excellent kind of analysis of why does tucker make himself out to be this like you know normal everyday

[\[11:17\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=677s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) American when he comes from this like very elite original person tucker carlson makes 27 400 per day wow that's 10 million dollars per year that's crazy anything he has an audience eating from him yeah I mean let's be clear about what some of those handlers have been up to I mean very recently I mean back in what july tucker carlson's chief top writer resigned blake neff was his name for you know making racist and homophobic and sexist comments under a pseudonym online you know this man wrote every other word tucker carlson said on the air I think it speaks volumes yeah yeah and there's also a reason why andrew anglin said that he's basically their spokesperson you know for the mainstream

[\[12:20\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=740s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Yeah the daily stormer yeah founder of daily stormer andrew anglin let's go further with this clip in that way biden is the mirror image of say elizabeth warren warren's eyes gleam with the menacing promise of germanic efficiency I just think it's hilarious to use that statement with the picture of her in this like you know she looks like a teacher yeah it's just like it seems like they could have found a picture of her with her eyes gleaming but it's just in this situation it seems kind of preposterous to parents it looks like this looks like when I was just gonna say that that you know she was if you look at this photo behind elizabeth warren to her left in blocks in this children's classroom it spells out blm so you know invoking you know germanic efficiency is a little incongruous this looks like when you upload a you know video to vimeo

[\[13:20\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=800s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) And it's just a random screenshot of the thumbnail like there was no effort to depict her as looking as some germanic like anything it's a random screenshot which is kind of strange because you'd think that you know they paired biden with that kind of goofy grin while they were talking about senility and like later on they also choose some kind of unflattering still frames of folks and so you'd think that with all that attention to putting people in weird lights that they would have found a different picture here I don't know biden's eyes are like windows onto an empty sky there's nothing there just a placid void democrats see an advantage in this a party that no longer represents the mainstream needs a leader who won't scare voters joe biden's job is to soothe your fears about what the left will do if they ever take power the most radical mass political movement in american history has found a front man who seems like he should be feeding pigeons democrats are happy about that

[\[14:23\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=863s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) If you didn't see biden speak last night you may not fully appreciate this dynamic some republicans in washington will tell you that biden's acceptance speech was scary it's their job to say things like that but in this case that's not true a future with hope and love for our fellow americans that's what joe biden promised last night is there anyone who doesn't want that well the leaders of joe biden's party for one thing democratic leaders are not calling for unity they're demanding division they staged an entire okay wait stop I mean what the hell like the amount of time that not just like you know joe biden but barack obama like spent doing advanced yoga poses to try and reach across the aisle to republicans like yeah pretend like that democrats want division I mean the democrats want a lot of things that are problematic that I I'm happy to critique and you know I think that you

[\[15:25\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=925s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Know ultimately I don't want anybody to misunderstand our commenting yeah no we we're not like we're not cheerleaders but you know like it's just it's bananas you know to say that the democrats are the ones stoking division well if you compare the rhetoric of the two different conventions like the republican convention was the one that was like you know firing brimstone and just like super angry and like the you know so he's making the case here that all the surface level you know positivity is just to mask this underbelly of conniving you know anarchy and his other point at the beginning like just to be clear joe biden is not the choice of any progressive out there it's like I would be happy I would be happy sorry just to say like I would be happy if he invited was this like front person for this like ultra

[\[16:25\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=985s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Left you know yeah to be clear biden is theirs because bernie like lost right now that's why he's there right yeah far from the you know the new thing that they're saying is that you know because they've moved on from you know that he's senile so now that they have to say that you know the new their new messaging is is that biden is a trojan horse for the radical left agenda right now that that's the new thing yeah I mean yeah I know it's like I would be it's like this like dark dystopian image that they're presenting would be like great in my opinion but unfortunately that's not the case since when did the since when did the senator who like whipped up all kinds of support for the iraq war become like a cause of radical leftist politics right or the guy who authored the crack cocaine legislation and authored the rave act to stop you know dance parties from happening like I think this is yet another like

[\[17:27\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=1047s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Example of both actually like liberals and conservatives agreeing to pretend that leftists are something that they are not and you know ultimately talking about like them as if they've never you know met anybody who actually holds left beliefs right it amounted to an extended tribute to the zero-sum viciousness of identity politics this group gets this pause like you know the biggest games of identity politics are being played on on the right which is you know white identity politics and grievances religious identity politics it's this is nonsense yeah and as we'll see later too like it's such a classic naming pointing fingers describing something like shadow projection of something that you actually are doing yourself but not admitting this is like a recurring theme is that give it to us now

[\[18:27\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=1107s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) A nation of 350 million people splintered into countless warring tribes united by nothing apart from a common loathing of their own country it was an orgy of anti-american grievance mongering wait a minute worst orgy ever yeah and from start to finish it was relentlessly savagely partisan watch the reverend freddie haynes experience this is paws they put time and energy into the screenshot that's why yeah I know it's like it makes him like yeah like they specifically chose a kind of unflattering position for him so and then usually they do that and so that's why it's like the what was her name elizabeth warren thing stood out as like an exception to that rule jesus hates republicans too you had the nerve to build a wall while at the same time you have in the harbor there in new york the

[\[19:28\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=1168s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Statue of liberty saying give me your tired your huddled masses yearning to breathe free jesus will say america if you don't get your act together you can you may well go to hell america is headed to hell says the reverend freddie are you gonna say something there yeah what was the cuccinelli is that his name is he what is he the border patrol ice guy one of those departments he's the one that took the statue of liberty line and like added as long as you don't cost us any money yeah right I mean I don't know this whole fire in brimstone no but let me play the full interpretation because what the reverend actually said was kind of like you may well you know this is not necessarily the gist of what he was saying was like it's hypocritical you know it doesn't it's not like following through on the values you supposedly

[\[20:28\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=1228s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Adhere to but then listen to how tucker oh just real quick I think we have I think maybe we have the screenshot of tucker that we should use if we were now this one this one's depicting this one's it's too much it's you need to have the puppy dog right like this is a quite listen to how tucker riffs on the statement that was just made damned for eternity flames smoke pitchfork gnashing of teeth the whole thing watch harris diagnosis it's just you know he's saying that the reverend was saying this is necessarily going to happen this and really amping up the hell aspect of it just to make it into something it's not you know that wasn't what he was saying right and I mean I think that if we really dig into it a little bit you know for how long I mean just go to any protest or really any like farmer's market of any

[\[21:30\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=1290s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Note and you'll see some you know extreme radical right you know evangelical standing there saying you know america is going to hell because of the lesbians and the homos and the satanic witches and it's like you know to find a democrat using similar rhetoric keep looking right I mean there's a reason why trump's inauguration is referred to as like the american carnage speech you know that yeah that that was what set the tone yeah I mean the tone was already set but you know it's ridiculous and tucker's about to just in a second also warp another quote from kamala harris so take focus on how she says it and then we can discuss his takeaway but with a fatal case of racism there is no vaccine for racism we've got to do the work we've got to do the work

[\[22:30\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=1350s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) To fulfill that promise of equal justice under law because here's the thing none of us are free until all of us are free there's no vaccine explains dr harris looks like the patient won't make it sorry america is dying from the virus of racism and there's nothing we can do we've reached the limits of modern medicine we're gonna have to let this country go and start over paula harris was hardly the only one to say that it's just it's so cynical to take a statement that is clearly intended to mean we can't just sit back and expect business of usual to end this thing we have to actually take initiative and make an effort like that was the point and somehow I mean he has to know better to warp that into there's no vaccine aka it's a fatal you know outcome that we have to just like throw away and create something new

[\[23:30\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=1410s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) It fits into this sort of general narrative that you know tucker and you know his base are talking about like the idea is is that if you don't have a vaccine you know you should well you shouldn't do anything you know but I mean we are in a pandemic right now and we don't have a vaccine and there's lots of things that we can and probably more that we should be doing but none of that enters into you know this world view at all so well that that's the right world view we don't do anything right well but the right would say not only do we not do anything but that we continue doing things you know like business as usual all I'm saying is is that just because you don't have a vaccine doesn't mean you can't take action that is useful yeah or you just like accept that everyone needs to die like that's it's crazy a false dichotomy right well the white house last night when they asked them about

[\[24:32\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=1472s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) When they ask them about if people are being tested I believe like one of the communications people's response was well everybody's going to get it anyways hello harris was hardly the only one to say that speaker after speaker this week hit the same theme america is beyond redemption tear it down and build a new country with us in charge there's no vaccine for america's sin it's terminal every word at the convention other than biden's speech was aimed directly at the left's base the coalition of the miserable that is the engine of the democratic party meanwhile outside the convention that they stayed busy thousands of biden voters work to help the democratic ticket in the ways they know best by hurting people and destroying things I just want to like point out here that and I don't know I might crop out this footage just for youtube's sake but because of the writing but to say that like meanwhile outside the convention implies that this is going on literally outside the convention like there's the

[\[25:33\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=1533s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Convention going on everyone's having this story of how great things are and then outside in the streets is mayhem and chaos and yet like in tiny lettering in the corner of the screen it says this is back in may and june that the footage is so to me it's it seems very intended to be misleading too it's like a little homage to 1968 that's what that's that that's what it's attempting to do right and they even mentioned this like we'll point out later but the summer of love kind of like yeah I think some of that though comes to you know the reality that people who are spending their time watching fox news I mean I think one of the reasons why we're doing a video on youtube about fox news is that most people who are on youtube looking at youtube are not watching fox news so the demographic that is sitting home watching tucker carlson is probably 60 and above so those metaphors probably ring true they took the most chaotic elements across different cities you know this

[\[26:34\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=1594s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Isn't even just one place it's like how can we get the most distressing stressful sounding and looking footage to pair with as a contrast to the speech that's going on because that's not in the positivity of the convention itself yeah it's tucker carlson taking a page from that cop show that has replaced cops live pd you know where they don't have to sign waivers because it's all live television from all over the country I didn't know about that that's crazy and conveniently not showing the most heinous thing which was the president clearing out peaceful protesters in front of the white house so he can walk across the \[expletive\] street and hold up a bible right

[\[27:43\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=1663s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) None of that was hidden anyone who lives in an american city or can navigate the right is so obsessed with the destruction of property it's sick it's so it's a sacred thing for them you know that's like part of the specter the boogeyman of like socialism is like you know my castle might be better you mean that property is sacred to capitalists what did shea was saying second ago I mean castle doctrine is you know right there at the heart of like second amendment self-defense you know you walk into my house I can kill you right and by extension we're seeing people saying you know if you're destroying somebody else's property then apparently a private citizen can kill you know because like in many ways we're you know it's almost like we're post we're in like the reformation

[\[28:43\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=1723s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Like post civil war where we're having like discussions over who is really a citizen and who has any political power in this situation but yeah ultimately like you know we see like the whole private property as being you know some terrible like violation and yet you know in a world where everything is is like everything is commodified the destruction of private property as an act of protest I mean like what else are you gonna do tucker exactly what was going on but if you got your news exclusively from the democratic message machine you would have no idea you'd have no clue that your country was being completely reshaped by violence in the streets there's no mention of that at all from democratic leaders at the convention this week antifa wasn't allowed to send delegates

[\[29:44\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=1784s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Various speakers made blm sound like a branch of the united way the media did not contradict this message they simply refused to cover the violence outside real quick the contradiction that he like glosses over is antifa was not allowed to send delegates and yet apparently they're setting the agenda at a national level for the you know mainstream centrist democrats well he's saying it has to be done like secretly not like in the open but he's clued in to the fact that this is going on so but it's like the way that just to get back to my point about how he's like signaling to the elderly that are watching this and like not able to see the screen that clearly and see the dates of everything that this is implying this is going on and then he's like and I bet the mainstream media isn't showing this so you know the fact that the mainstream media is portraying the democratic convention as if it went off well it's just because they're hiding the fact that outside the doors of the

[\[30:44\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=1844s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Convention is like fires and explosions and he even says in a second I think it that he said he adds that I'll play the rest of the clip actually it was like it all never happened it's possible that joe biden never found out about it biden doesn't get outside much he knows only what they tell him judging from his so it's sort of implying that it's like this was going on outside and there's actually an explosion right there that that's the flat going off right yeah and it's like he has no idea he might not even know it's like he that because then it's like he's not hiding it he may actually be oblivious to the fact that these explosions are going on behind him clearly kamala is holding his hand to direct his attention yeah don't look over there that's right last night biden has come to believe that he is mahatma gandhi leading a movement to restore love to the human heart a path of hope and light a path of hope and light it sounds like a beatles lyric from their acid phase oh okay first of all

[\[31:47\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=1907s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Like a thousand points of light I mean that's pretty reagan but like wow chuck carlson dropping some lsd acid references huh well it's weird to like because it's sort of like we were saying before with 68 like signaling to the older folks about all the chaos associated with that you know civil unrest that thankfully was suppressed and you know put away but at the same time there's the like why even bring that up there and what was the just one of you why he likes it and he likes it you know he kind of likes it so he just wants to throw it out there a little bit you know it's his like really guilty his really guilty pleasures that he loves the grateful dead isn't it on his last wikipedia page his last book or his book from 2018 he named like ship of fools after the grateful dead you can look on fox news you know about his it's just it's

[\[32:49\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=1969s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Stunning he likes the dead he's been to 50 shows like which is I have been to five grateful dead shows that is an incredible devotion to that subculture and I just don't buy it that tucker carlson is you know buttoned up conservative do you buy but do you buy the paul ryan's favorite band is rage against the machine I mean that's I'm not no I likes the me I think he likes the music he does I believe the lyrics what I'm trying to say is that I don't think the man's sober I think we should drug test tucker carlson I don't know anybody who knows the grateful dead show yeah to be to have never been like dabbled in that kind of aspect of the culture is you know possibly but far-fetched at the same time it relates back to your lucy in the sky analysis that exposure to these kinds of things does not guarantee any kind of like enlightened world view

[\[33:49\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=2029s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) That you know a lot of people associate them together of like you know in the sense of you can't be a lot of people in the community who are you know in favor of maps and all this psychological psychotherapy that's coming back think that oh good like we can expose people to these types of experiences and then they're gonna magically not be far right and that's just not the case as we've shown time and again no for being honest who doesn't want hope and light we all do all decent people want that and that's why it's a winning message in a national election unfortunately it's also a deeply dishonest message unity is not what the democrats are promising the media understand that very well they're committed democrats themselves hope and light please these are hardened partisans they know okay come on like pot meet the kettle right you're on fox news buddy I know yeah I don't I

[\[34:50\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=2090s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Don't I don't get it how many you know look at the guys out there that you have limbaugh yeah what more carbon partisans do you have joe biden said on stage last night was absurd but they also know that many americans will believe it so they love the speech whoever wrote that speech needs to get a cookie and a hug and a flag and a puppy it is that that thing was crafted so well this is the best night for joel fighting ever the best where where's the call karl rove clip from fox news where karl rove said it was a really good speech oh it was not in there I must have myself no I'm being excited sorry said it was a really good speech but the specific choice of that

[\[35:50\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=2150s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) The crafted message it's like it's implying again that they're excited at how well the illusion is being cast like almost as if they're in the know that this is all just a ploy you know of like you know don't look over at the bombs like oh great he was able to accomplish this lie you know and that's what they're excited about they're not actually excited about the message or about the performance in general but about the success of the illusion that's been portrayed yeah joe biden ever jennifer granholm might be right about that unfortunately in the short term lies often work oh my god it's just it's so ironic though here's the lie here's the next liar right so this is true over to laura's show that's what this election is going to come down to it's going to be the swamp versus freedom in america it's going to be socialism as you've seen with the bernie sanders joint unity platform on joe biden's website it's going to be socialism versus

[\[36:51\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=2211s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Freedom versus the constitution all of those things that the democrats don't believe so much in notice they didn't talk at all about the crime in democrat-run cities burning looting beating people in the streets this guy is not even worth acknowledging he's such a \[expletive\] he's not even worth excuse me I will say though that you know republicans very much like to discuss you know the constitution they like to talk about freedom and liberty what you rarely hear them you know lionizing is democracy and democratic institutions right and what's so great actually about trump is that he has just completely he's so transparent that it's impossible for him to even dog whistle you know he's like well we can't do mail-in voting that'll increase voter turnout and that he just says it yeah rather than like yeah

[\[37:54\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=2274s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) These people really do hate democracy and it's why it's been very easy for them to you know slide much further right than anybody thought they could and this is like a crime syndicate the trump family is a crime syndicate that they're like dad accidentally for some publicity became present in the united states launched them out into everybody's you know homes and tv screens across the country and now like trump jr is pissing his pants new york times just put a story out the other day he's pissing his pants that they're gonna lose and then you know all these cases against them are gonna move forward so we'll see if they do but also it's like as robert reich and other people have pointed out like they're all for socialism for the rich it's like you know socialism versus the constitution it's such a fake you know dichotomy that they're presenting right I mean every single you know every single member of congress who voted against government sponsored healthcare is on a

[\[38:55\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=2335s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Government-sponsored health care program for right they just don't want to help out poor people so the democrats haven't even denounced that it seems as though they're almost tacitly accepting of it laura yes these protesters don't burn down cars they don't burn down housing projects they don't loot gucci stores to get a new handbag or purse or a belt that's not peaceful protesting and yet between the dnc and their marketing wing the mainstream media I heard a lot about peaceful protesting I believe someone called it the summer of love give me a break I hope that good god-fearing american people see through this nonsense because that's the problem that we face we are in an uphill battle in the sense that it is so biased it is so flagrant the media has just totally advocated their responsibility to be arbiters of truth without bias to be activists for the left that regular people aren't consuming that sort of news so when I saw this like my jaw dropped

[\[39:56\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=2396s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Because I was like how can you be so accurately describing what you are doing and acting outraged that like this other you know group the entire mainstream media you know is doing the thing that you're actually doing for the right sure I mean it was I joseph goebbels like stated that the strategy that they employed was to accuse their opponents of that which they were doing and you know it's masterful what we're seeing and have seen for some time out of the fox news network but the really the rnc is was was quite a doozy of apocalyptic catastrophizing sure I mean I think it was effective for you know their strategy is simply the base at this point you know it's just driving home the base and what they want to do is get out the base voter they want to get out the base instead of expanding they're trying

[\[40:57\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=2457s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) To energize base people who didn't vote in last election encouraging activating more of that group yeah they're not other than pulling in other groups yeah this type of messaging is not effective for swing voters that slice of swing voters it's not designed you know most people are already settled on it there's a very there's like a couple percentage points that's up for grabs that's it though right conservative socially liberal isn't gonna fall for trump jr's stuff yeah let me just play the last like 20 seconds I mean joe biden he's gonna get tough on china I mean it's laughable it's beyond blacklight alone he should be able to do an interview with someone like yourself or someone who's not going to spoon feed him questions that he already has the answer to that he's miraculously coming off of a teleprompter they think

[\[41:57\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=2517s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) They would do that but I don't think they will and no one's going to push for it I mean you mean like exactly what it's like when donald trump jr appears on the laura ingam show like ingram I mean like I can't imagine a more you know softball pairing than these two right there's no push I can't and well you could have a little bit more softball would be hannity but sure yeah hannity's on hiatus though right now isn't he did he get pun did he get punished for I think it was stelter's book where he did you see that basically he has quotes from he has quotes from hannity people saying in private that hannity like thinks the guy's nuts and why the hell do you think I'm vaping so much I need to vape because like this guy's driving me crazy vape nation maybe that's why he's on he's

[\[42:57\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=2577s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) On break I have no idea yeah I don't know if he I don't know if I misspoke but I know that both him and tucker actually were taking a break well tucker takes a break every time like his racist reality comes out he said it was a planned vacation like calendar that means that it's not a planned vacation when they say that that's what that always means but it's just like yeah this is definitely 101 like I was thinking of calling it like fast tactics but you know it's it is like we're talking about why I bother like going over this stuff when it's like so on the surface but at the same time like this happens to varying degrees all the time but like there's something useful about when it's such an extreme like on the surface manipulative tactic because it's like we can talk about it and kind of assess the dynamics for when it does also happen in more subtle or you know harder to see ways yeah I mean I would also say that you know this is like a clearly you know just a nice tiny

[\[43:57\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=2637s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Little tasty bite slice of the right wing echo chamber you know so you know if you spend your time you know your recliner watching tucker carlson and then when good old tuck is off or when the my pillow guy is on you tuned in that was crazy like you know these are you know you bounce around then no that's done we go check out hannity and oh what's ann coulter up to you know and they all reference each other and this is very much what we saw with the what we see I think coulter's out of the club though now isn't she I think she's out of the club she's anti-trump at this point yeah but she I mean she recently she has a new presidential choice she said she wished that the 17 year old shooter in wisconsin's president she said that on twitter no how oh man that's dark that that's super dark what

[\[44:58\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAC9MdlIhag&t=2698s&ref=ghost.psymposia.com) Do you want and colt that's in coulter yeah it's like her old stick yeah anyhow well that was just yeah a little snapshot of tactics for you and like I mentioned we're from plus three podcast of Psymposia you can check us out Psymposia.com and we have patreon if you feel like chipping in if you could like this share it whatever you feel like we'd appreciate it and I hope to catch you again