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# #14 – Douglas Rushkoff on the Parallels Between Psychedelic and Digital Mainstreaming
- URL: https://ghost.psymposia.com/douglas-rushkoff-on-the-parallels-between-psychedelic-and-digital-mainstreaming/
- Published: 2020-05-01T15:46:23.000Z
- Updated: 2021-12-01T08:39:16.000Z
- Description: Plus Three is joined by author and host of the Team Human podcast, Douglas Rushkoff, to discuss some of the parallel trajectories between psychedelic and digital mainstreaming. Will COVID-19 be to psychedelics as 9/11 was to surveillance capitalism? September 11th became the excuse to implement a su
- Author: Plus Three
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On this episode we talk with Douglas Rushkoff, author, teacher, and host of the [Team Human](https://teamhuman.fm/?ref=ghost.psymposia.com) podcast. Rushkoff’s work explores how different technological environments change our relationship to narrative, money, power, and each other. His latest book, also called Team Human, calls for the retrieval of human autonomy in a digital age. Rushkoff is also no stranger to the psychedelic scene having collaborated with Timothy Leary, Robert Anton Wilson, Terence McKenna, Ralph Metzner, Mark Pesce, and Erik Davis.

We discuss some of the parallels between digital and psychedelic mainstreaming, the mental health epidemic as an externality of capitalism, and placing our trust in capitalist cures. Will COVID-19 be to psychedelics as 9/11 was to surveillance capitalism? September 11th became the excuse to implement a surveillance state and surrender digital technologies to corporations. Will we see psychedelic medicines become the go-to recovery option for COVID-related mental health fallout? We also explore what a true psychedelic renaissance might look like.

Co-hosts: Brian Normand, Neşe Devenot, David Nickles, Brian Pace. Editor: Matt Payne.

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